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by Fr. Johannes L. Jacobse –
\nProgressive fads sweep through the culture like clockwork. Remember the impending global ice age in the 1970s that morphed into global warming today? How about the fight about abortion where anyone who dared criticize it was branded as a hater of women? Remember the Equal Rights Amendment and how convinced its supporters were that it was absolutely necessary for a just society?<\/p>\n
None of these movements should be taken lightly of course but that doesn\u2019t disqualify them as fads. There is always a strong strain of self-justification among Progressive Culture Warriors; a posturing that creates a facade of virtue and labels the critic as ignorant. Fellow travelers bask in that warm glow of imputed righteousness that they generously confer on each other. The rest of us can return to our caves.<\/p>\n
That kind of arrogance informs the new Facebook group \u201cListening: Breaking the Silence on Sexuality with the Orthodox Church<\/a>.\u201d The tendentious title is the first clue something is seriously skewed. What silence needs to be \u201cbroken\u201d? Who are the people breaking it? Is the Orthodox Church really<\/em> silent on sexuality? <\/p>\n As it turns out, the only sexuality that occupies the \u201cListening\u201d group is homosexuality. They oppose the prohibitions against homosexual behavior in the Orthodox moral tradition. The prohibitions go back to Apostolic times, but their rejection of them is only whispered \u2014 a silence they still don\u2019t want broken apparently.<\/p>\n The Invitation To \u2018Dialogue\u2019<\/strong> The decline started out innocently enough. Traditionalists were invited to \u201cdialogue\u201d (a favorite term) about lifting the moral prohibitions against homosexuality. Many of the arguments heard on the Listening group were ones first uttered by these Episcopalian activists. Some were even true especially the assertion that we need a better understanding of homosexual pathology, that some homosexuals have suffered, and that some young people don\u2019t know how to deal with homosexual feelings, among others.<\/p>\n Nevertheless, accepting the invitation to dialogue undermined foundations. When the operating assumption is that the moral tradition is wrong in its prohibitions, then the only way dialogue can be meaningful is when the traditionalist detaches himself from the authority of his tradition.<\/p>\n We call this moral relativism where no abiding truth, no moral universals, are believed to exist. Truth becomes relative. The touchstone for truth is not God but man, and every man is free to decide for himself what is true and what is a lie. In the dominant culture moral relativism reigns supreme. In the Orthodox Church however, we guide our lives and decisions according to the tradition we have received.<\/p>\n The traditionalist entered the dialogue with the deck stacked against him. As it turned out, the invitation to dialogue was a ruse, a way to undermine the confidence the traditionalist had in his tradition and ultimately many were driven out. The activists ascended into positions of authority so that when the purge of traditionalists began, they were able to hang onto the buildings, endowments, and key ministries. Today, the traditionalists are exiled in the desert.<\/p>\n My \u2019Dialogue\u2019 With A Moderator of the Listening Group<\/strong> The moderator (and founder) wrote:<\/p>\n \u201cWe\u201d (Orthodox Christians supportive of and participating in the kinds of dialogue we have in the Listening group) and \u201cyou\u201d (Orthodox Christians opposed to this dialogue), have, sadly, become enemies. It seems to me that dialogue between us is not possible right now. This should be a source of grief rather than anger. It is for me. In this situation I want to try to take very seriously our Lord\u2019s admonition to pray for our enemies. That simple teaching contains one of the great, inescapable truths of the Gospels. I think it\u2019s the best thing we can do, and it\u2019s a very good thing. I very sincerely ask you\u2014readers of this site\u2014to pray for us. And I sincerely offer my prayers on your behalf as well. May God bless us all, grant us all a spirit of repentance, and lead us all to Truth.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n My response:<\/p>\n Pardon my bluntness, but your argument has the odor of sanctimonious posturing. The language confirms it: \u201cThis should be a source of grief rather than anger,\u201d or \u201cIn this situation I want to try to take very seriously our Lord\u2019s admonition to pray for our enemies,\u201d for example. You imply that we should join together in feigned concern over a division that you have created. No thanks.<\/p>\n In reality the divisions are clear: One group approaches the prohibitions against homosexual behavior as an open question and the other regards it as closed. And no, the traditionalists don\u2019t see the liberals as \u201cenemies\u201d but as flat out wrong. There\u2019s a world of difference between the two and any prattle about \u201cloving your enemies\u201d blurs this critical distinction. Frankly, using the injunction to \u201clove your enemies\u201d to justify your notion of dialogue abuses the moral vocabulary. Any Christian who has faced the task of forgiving a real enemy knows this.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n My response was harsh but necessary. Obscuring real intentions with overwrought language (what I call \u201cOrtho-speak\u201d) is an occupational hazard with us Orthodox and it is fully evident here. If the language of the moral tradition is employed in ways that undermine it (whether or not the moderator is aware of it is irrelevant), then strong reproof is warranted. The moderator must<\/em> understand that for the Orthodox the question about moral prohibitions is closed. No dialogue is needful or desired.<\/p>\n If we want to think clearly, then we have to deal with what words really mean, not what we want them to mean. And no amount of self-justifying rhetoric about this or that putative virtue lifts this requirement. There is no \u201cgrief\u201d or \u201chatred of one\u2019s enemies\u201d evident here. We see only the muddled thinking and ignorance of the neophyte.<\/p>\n Guideposts Keep Us On The Path<\/strong> That\u2019s one of the gravest threats the Listening group presents. If they succeed in removing the guidepost that names homosexual behavior as sin, then they also remove the hope that the person struggling with same-sex desire has for healing from God. In theological terms, the group preaches an incipient antinomianism<\/em><\/a>; they stand against the law of God even though they cover their rebellion with the language of benevolence and compassion. (See: The Challenge of Antinomianism: You Mean the Gospel Isn\u2019t All About Mercy?<\/a>)<\/p>\n The Listening group needs to unplug their ears and hear this: When the moral prohibitions are discarded, then the anthropology to which they point is jettisoned along with them. The prohibitions do not exist in a theological vacuum. They draw from deep insight and knowledge about the human being that in some cases took centuries to comprehend and develop and serves today as the foundation to better understand homosexual pathology and how to deal with it.<\/p>\n Moreover, when the anthropology is jettisoned, something else has to take its place. If one really believes that the moral tradition has nothing to say about sexuality (the Church is \u201csilent,\u201d remember?), then ideas from popular culture will be solicited to fill the vacuum. But many of these ideas are false.<\/p>\n For example, one dominant assumption of the group is that homosexual identity is fixed. The jury is still out on this. The Center for Disease Control just released a study<\/a> (.pdf) that only 1.7% of the population is homosexual and 35% of this number is bisexual. The study cites that only approximately 420,000 people in all of the United States are actually committed homosexuals. Many men move into homosexuality for a season and then move out. Homosexual self-identity is not as fixed as the gay lobby or the Listening group would have us believe. (See: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Study Says Only 1.4% of Population Homosexual<\/a>.)<\/p>\n Another assumption is that if one criticizes the dominant homosexual apologetic, then one lacks the compassion<\/em> to effectively deal with the person struggling with same-sex desire. This is perhaps the most pernicious misconception of all because it disqualifies the traditionalist a priori<\/em> and thus excludes the anthropology that needs to be brought forward.<\/p>\n So Who Really Is The \u2018Listening\u2019 Group?<\/strong> Unfortunately many in the group display an immaturity and ignorance about the ideas that they champion. They are probably not aware of it, but they function as the religious arm of Gay Inc. \u2013 a term familiar to more discerning observers of the culture. (See: The Bad Faith of Michele Bachmann\u2019s Gay Rights Inquisitors<\/a>.)<\/p>\n They also enjoy berating converts (\u201cAmerican Orthodoxy has a convert problem\u201d is a favorite refrain applied to their critics) but who really are the neophytes here? They collect the ideas of the dominant culture, swash them with a religious patina and call the enterprise Orthodox. But we aren\u2019t interested in repeating the Episcopalian project in our Orthodox Church, thank you. Maybe they would be more comfortable in the new and improved Episcopalian communion.<\/p>\n The Listening group has to stop dragging the culture wars into the Church. The prohibition against homosexual behavior is a closed question. The moral tradition does not need to be retooled and there is no need for \u201cdialogue.\u201d<\/p>\n True compassion sees the person struggling with same-sex desire as a person first and not as a \u201chomosexual.\u201d That\u2019s what our tradition teaches. False compassion redefines the person in terms of his passion. That\u2019s what the homosexual lobby teaches. Throw out the prohibitions however, and this distinction is lost. The knowledge that informs them will be lost with it.<\/p>\n HT: AOI<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" by Fr. Johannes L. Jacobse – Progressive fads sweep through the culture like clockwork. Remember the impending global ice age in the 1970s that morphed into global warming today? How about the fight about abortion where anyone who dared criticize it was branded as a hater of women? 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\nWe\u2019ve seen these arguments before, particularly in the Episcopalian Church that has been largely decimated by homosexual activism in the last three decades. Liberal activists overtook that once noble communion and forced the traditionalists out the door. The prognosis is dire. (See: When the Lights Go Out: The Death of a Denomination<\/a>, and What Does The Future Hold For The Church Of England?<\/a>)<\/p>\n
\nNo one is arguing that the Facebook activists have motives this sinister, but their thinking is no different than their Episcopalian counterparts. Consider this \u201cdialogue\u201d I had recently<\/a> with one of the group\u2019s moderators:<\/p>\n
\nThe moral prohibitions serve as guideposts, as warnings or barriers to us. If we cross them, then we enter onto a path that leads to death instead of life. God is merciful and has provided us the way out of the death into which our sins have led us. But what happens when sin is not called sin anymore? What happens when the guidepost is removed or the warning muted and the barrier taken down? Then we walk in darkness. The way to salvation is harder to find.<\/p>\n
\nThe point that must be understood is this: If the Listening group believes that the Church is \u201csilent\u201d on sexuality and that they have been called to \u201cbreak\u201d that silence, then the source of their thinking has to draw from something other than the moral tradition. Their purpose then is not dialogue. It can\u2019t be. Rather they want to be the gate-keepers, the commissars of acceptable ideas and speech. It simply cannot be anything else.<\/p>\n